Relletje in de Nederlandse Poker Scene

Relletje in de Nederlandse Poker Scene

Een aantal dagen geleden verscheen er een topic op het populaire 2+2 forum, waarin Fedor Holz, die online door het leven gaat als CrownUpGuy, zegt te zijn bestolen door Paul "padjes" Berende. Duitser Holz, zou Paul, al sinds augustus backen maar hij is er in februari achtergekomen dat de cijfers die Berende terugstuurde niet bleken te kloppen. Omdat Paul volgens Fedor geen goede verklaring had voor het gat in de cijfers heeft Fedor Holz besloten om met het hele verhaal naar buiten te komen en het op het 2+2 forum te plaatsen.

 

Hoewel het een privé zaak is, hebben we toch besloten om erover te berichten omdat we het wel degelijk nieuws vinden. Het gaat in de eerste plaats om twee bekende Nederlandse pokerspelers en Fedor Holz, heeft meerdere malen geprobeerd om de waarheid boven tafel te krijgen. Uit de gesprekken die Fedor in zijn topic heeft gezet, blijkt dat Paul hier niet echt aan mee wilde werken en zodoende is er dus een vrij groot conflict ontstaan. Dit komt vooral omdat Fedor meerdere malen om uitgebreide statistieken heeft gevraagd maar Paul heeft dit geweigerd.

 

Het topic kun je hieronder helemaal in het Engels lezen. Paul heeft zelf in een reactie op PokerNews laten weten dat hij momenteel met Fedor een oplossing aan het zoeken is, dus we hopen natuurlijk van harte dat beide heren er zo snel mogelijk uitkomen.

 

Dit is het topic van Fedor Holz op het 2+2 forum:

Paul reached out to me late August last year. He was looking for a stake, after it hasnt been going his way and he wasnt able to play the limits he has been playing anymore. I know him for pretty much my whole career now both online and live and had my first livedeeprun together with him - so we already met and talked. I wasn't planning on taking on more stakees, but his stats and his reputation was quite convincing so I started backing him on 8/9/2014 for 4 sites.

 

He has been grinding quite some and piled up some MU in the first couple of months and he was lazy reporting, but I checked all of it on sharkscope and it seemed correct. So it was not optimal, but a little bit as expected.

 

I started travelling in November/December - February 2014 and thats when it started to become suspicious. He didnt play regularly (still okish volume) and there were a couple of times where he didnt update the sheet for 7 days or didnt write me any messages that he was gone. After I confronted him it was "family" or a "festival" (which being facebook friends with him I know is correct) but the span of time he didnt communicate in hindsight was definitely more like avoiding conversations with me. Back then I knew that he probably wasnt the most reliable person and poker player out there, but I was pretty sure that he was an honest guy and I didnt think one second of it somehow being something really negative.

 

So Ive been hardcore-travelling in Nov/Dec/Jan where I only sent money and was available at skype to chat.
I had some shares in EPT he busted, he played multiple sites and I checked in with sharkscope everytime when he asked for money - but I didnt check it 100% for correct numbers while travelling.
When I came back home beginning of February I checked in with all my stakees and checked statistics and after I checked all his screennames on all sites and the belonging numbers I found quite a gap from sharkscope to his sheet and requested an audit - and thats where it starts to become really weird.

 

First I asked for Moneybookers/Neteller Screenshots to check it right away.
He refused that:
Paul Berende:
i think its lame that your accusing me of stealing, and i have to defend myself by sending up peronsal stuff at this point

 

then
Paul Berende:
im gonna discuss this with my brother first before i send u information from account history etc, because i feel like this is not the normal way to go but ok, i feel really accused on something here..

 

after that I asked for PokerStars and FTP audits so I can check it, he refuses that:

 

Fedor Hold
so why dont you just be cooperative and do me a favour and show me something that eases my mind
like the audit of Stars and FTP
or some screenshots
Ive been scammed twice already I cannot just believe your word
so if you are telling the truth then it should be quite easy for you to prove it

 

Paul Berende
like i said im gonna talk about this with my brother first and think about this before i send u any personal history, if you don't want to send any $ then for tonight , that would be really lame
and i don't think i deserve this

 

Fedor Hold
how is a stars audit personal history

 

Paul Berende
just any account history info with my info

 

Fedor Hold
the info I already have

 

He also wrote this:
Paul Berende
like i said im not gonna request any files yet before I talk about this
i want to know if this is normal, in all my 7 years playing poker i never have done anything like this

 

I replied to that with a quote of someone really well known in the business who said that its super standard. He didnt respond to that.

 

now after this conversation I start to become really worried and Im already quite sure that he somehow took money from the stake when I was gone.
I gave him a deadline to send me the audit and he just dissappeared and didnt really answer me anymore.

 

His last words:
I dont have to defend myself for something like this, I have backed people myself and backed others and I have never had anything like this. If u wanna ruin my name by saying I stole money go ahead, but it is beyond ridiculous.

 

I'm 99% sure that he took money from me (although I couldnt check with an audit) and Im really dissappointed. I gave him two deadlines, he didnt cooperate in any way and now I feel obliged to let the community know.

 

He had about 119,165$ in Makeup. He sent me back the remaining roll of 4400$~ on monday.
I assume hes down about 80-85k$ on 5 sites.
I think he stole about 25-35k$ over the course of the last 7-10 weeks.

 

If you have any information regarding the matter, please let me know.

 

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